Fun with Dick & Carey in the real world

Posted by Gina Rosenthal in instructional design | Tagged , , , | 4 Comments

This semester I am taking a class called “Introduction to Instructional Design”. We are stepping through Dick, Carey & Carey’s textbook The Systematic Design of Instruction. The book examines the Dick and Carey model of instruction in detail. Here’s a diagram of that model (click the picture to see a larger version):

Dick and Carey Instructional Model

As with all models of instruction, the diagram shouldn’t be interpreted as a lock-step process. It is pretty fluid, you can go back and forth between steps as needed. The main points I take from the model is that you do constant analysis to ensure the instruction you develop is going to satisfy the instructional goal.

My degree program teaches instructional systems to people working in every sector: K-12 professionals, higher ed professionals, military folks and corporate professionals. Most of the corporate professionals develop training usually associated with HR, there aren’t many of us who do technical training. So while it’s good to have a map to ensure the effort and expense put develop training isn’t wasted, I have to wonder if this model is agile enough for a fast-moving technical education organization.

There are other instructional models that were developed specifically for technical instruction. Maybe I’ll write a post on that another day, it would be interesting to see if one has been developed to specifically fit in with Agile sprints and scrums.

We actually follow many of the steps in this model. One thing I (as a courseware developer) think we are missing is the learner and context evaluation. We use program managers to get that information to us from the managers of the students. Those managers deliver what they think the students should be able to do after consuming training, which is very important. It helps us set the correct performance objectives. But I have never been seen any learner or context analysis.

I can write courseware all day long, but if the students are starting from a different place than I thought they were, or if they can never get to training because they are too busy, does it matter how well the instruction is missing?

The biggest concern I have about the Dick & Carey model in a fast-moving technical area is that it takes alot of time to do the Analysis. The way we are learning this model, you have to be in the same room with learners to do the analysis and formative or summative evaluations. That would never fly with us, people at our company are just too busy. Not only that, but traveling all over the place do the analysis is too expensive. Besides, by the time we got back and compiled all the data, there would be a new version of software and we’d have to start all over again.

Why couldn’t I form a small community to pull all these steps together? The analysis would be there for all the stakeholders. The students could pop in and participate in guided discussions so that I have a real analysis of what it will take to get them to where their managers want them to be. We could pilot the materials in the community and get real-time feedback.

I think I know the drawbacks: people are still too busy to participate. People don’t trust online communities. Do we really need this extra step.

What do you all think? Does the Dick & Carey model move to slowly to be relevant for a fast-moving technical organization? Could it be modified and modeled in an online community? Do we really need to do so much analysis?

4 Responses to Fun with Dick & Carey in the real world

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  2. Sreya Dutta says:

    Gina, I’ve been thinking about the Dick and Carey model a lot recently. I’ve almost always used ADDIE at work. The question that keeps coming up is, how does one arrive at the Instructional Goals first without doing an audience analysis and having a list of high level activities that the target audience would be required to perform after completing the training? Would you be able to help me with this one?

    Sreya

  3. gminks says:

    Hi Sreya. First of all, none of the instructional design models should be viewed as a checklist. So the process can start at anyplace in the model, it doesn’t have to start all the way at the left.

    There are lots of ways to identify Instructional Goals. You may have someone come to you and say “We need to train everyone to perform this task, and we need the training next week. Everyone is doing it wrong, and this is costing us money, so write my training!!”.

    So you have a set of instructional goals that was provided to you by a stakeholder. The goal could even be wider than that – it could be “we need a program to train new hires”. Then the addie steps (the analysis steps) would kick in.

    Based on the analysis, the Instructional Goals may need to be change. You may find during analysis that training is not the solution to the problem.

    Does this make sense?

  4. Sreya Dutta says:

    Thanks Gina, that answers all and am quite clear now. Precisely what I was looking for.

    Sreya

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